Tulpa.info - metaphysics

and healings

5:54 PM

I will try to find my aura pictures as I do think it may interest some

@Reguile Beliefs about government conspiracies are very common in alternative spirituality communities. It's really not a sign in itself of paranoid schizophrenia or mental illness. All it takes is watching a few videos, reading a few books and a regular person can be convinced there's a certain conspiracy going on.

I'd probably call it a "single possible warning sign that needs other factors before making any conclusions". Like a person sneezing might want to get checked out for the flu

its easy to think that when they show up at class. and say who they are

6:18 PM

I dont think even properly enrolled.. but of cause you cant kick them out

6:19 PM

they questioned my teacher

6:28 PM

that's my old business card.. I did this as part of my work for years till I got too psychically sensitive to continue and had been psychically attacked (I think that happened as I'd refused to join a powerful group who tried to recruit me, they told me I was in danger of a bad psychic attack from another group but I ignored them.. I was then attacked but I believe it was actually the ones trying to recruit me.. . attempting to make me feel unsafe so I would join. This group had spent 2 years trying to get me to join them (not the ones that I wonder if is responsible for my teachers death), I'd played them for a while trying to learn as much as I can about them as they are a kind of secret group but never joined).. and my health then was wrecked to a level I could not fix with my lots of damage done to my energy system (so now I use a wheelchair and I'm not even 50). My condition is so severe that I cant even look after myself due to physical problems so I have support workers. My autonomic system of my body is screwed and my body does not even regulate properly it's blood volume among other issues.. so I have to take drugs to help that (edited)

6:29 PM

I cant find the aura photos I had decided I wanted to show but came across my old card while looking for the photos (edited)

6:29 PM

(phone number on that is not current)

6:32 PM

i dont just believe meta beliefs.. they are part of my true belief system so I live them. When people start bad mouthing meta things, it's like if someone who is Christian had someone belittling their belief system but worst as I live and experience the meta reality where as someone who is Christian probably does not have that affect their lives so much other then maybe going to church on a Sunday. (edited)

you are very open about sharing personal information considering that you are afraid of government conspiracies

I dont believe any of them would be in here, I dont suffer paranoia.. why would they come here? that would be irrational thinking (edited)

6:52 PM

you guys are not making any kind of dangerous tulpas.. they'd target tibetian groups if they wanted to target tulpa groups which have stronger tulpas (edited)

6:53 PM

not a community who has been just messing with tulpas for a short time

6:54 PM

I myself have not came to normal gov attention.. not like my teacher. I came to the attention of others. Others who wanted to further train me and had selected me on what I was doing and already knew.. they made all kinds of bribes to me. They wanted me to work for them. They even managed to find out my personal details when I didnt use anything which could of given them that.. my email was not even attached to my name and at that time back then hotmail was anomyous (that was at a time when I never put personal info online)... and mailed me by post from a branch or I guess their main headquarters maybe , from London. They wrote when I broke contact with them online, wrote to me in Australia. People who start to get high up in the meta stuff world.. we end up drawing undesirables to us.. (edited)

I ended up backing out of the meta world one could say.. stopped my yogi practices.. due to the poor health I then had (after psychic attack..though I cant say for sure if that is what did it.. my health condition I ended up with is medically known to have "unknown cause" and all the stuff which happened (I also ended up having a severe kundalini crisis - kundalini syndrome). So hence no longer do things such as astral projection and are no longer known for doing healings or teaching psychic field stuff classes.. I no longer have people phoning me night and day to try to help them with meta stuff. I even once was phoned in the middle of the night to try to help someone who's wife was possessed (and yes she in fact was I found when I got there, I ended up calling the ambulance in regards to her when I failed to be able to help her..as she was not functional at all). what a strange life I was leading back then. I kind of miss it though and all the friends I have in that world one could say. I no longer see any of them (im talking about real humans, others who used to go to classes with me or we'd do psychic healing stall together at expos).. and 2 of my teachers are now deceased and a third I lost contact with and cant find him. urgh I think I need to get back into that world though I dont want to.. I miss having the social contacts who understand all this stuff. (no idea where to find.. Im not Wiccian but a yogi practioner and my group is in another state of my country and around the world but not where I am, when I go to occultic or meta sites..I just find wiccian people and that.. no yogis). And I dont want to go to a site and get known and end up getting daily mails of people asking me how to do things (which used to happen, I'd get my mail box flooded) (edited)

Whats the difference between tibetan tulpas and our tulpas anyway

7:42 PM

@sea-mist.

For one I strongly suspect they dont morph as much .. cause they work on them for much much longer..

7:43 PM

theirs can be so imposed that others may see them

7:44 PM

thoughtforms may be seen by others.. once again with this community who quickly has a tulpa.. Im doubting that others would see them.. they seem to be more just in head space and not going into the astral.

7:45 PM

I wont go further on differences

7:46 PM

cause I just dont know enough.. but do know their tuplas would be a lot stronger as I have worked with thoughtforms and are familiar with yogic energy. (edited)

Were you raised in the metaphysical community as well?

no I wasnt. I had a very tough time growing up as my family were Christian... to the point I have a family history of having 3 pastors in my family. My aunt was a pastor.

7:51 PM

I was forced to go to Sunday school right till I was 12 urghhhh! and I used to ask so many bible questions which they could not answer

7:51 PM

my first strange meta experience happened when I was 4 or 5.. (possible alien experience)

7:52 PM

then me and my sisters.. we lived in haunted house.. only one of my sisters never experienced the spirit.. me and the other two did

7:53 PM

only when we moved out did my mother tell me she was scared there too at times

7:56 PM

I went hysterical one day over the spirit which was connected to that house. I answered the door thinking it was a person. He used to only show up when our parents werent home (I never answered his knocks and we'd all hide behind the couch..we only kids) but this day he showed up and knocked when everyone was home and I went to the door not realising it was the spirit and went to hysterics when what I thought was a person.. vanished right in front of me. It took my family ages to calm me down.. we had 6 kids in that house when that happened (2 visiting) and 2 adults.. and 4 of us heard that loud knocking at the door (one of the visiting kids heard it too). It caused a debate as the 4 others didnt hear it at all when we commented someone was knocking loudly and wondered who would knock that loud. So we were still debating as I went to answer it. (edited)

Very strange

then when I moved out of home.. I moved into a house where a demon was but at first I thought it was a poltergist. I ended up calling him George, he would hide things and they would end up showing up in very obvious places days later.. eg on the toilet seat. Over time this being like grew in stronger and he become obviously malicious. He even scared a friend visiting who was an 18 year old guy.. he ended up terrified when he stayed one night and we had not told him about the demon.

8:02 PM

this 18 year old.. ended up pleading with me and my boyfriend to let him sleep in our bedroom lol cause he was so scared

Was he also into metaphysics?

I ended up finding out as I lived in a small country town.. who previously lived there.. and it turned out to be that two of our towns Satanists had lived in that home before me

8:03 PM

no not that I know of.. I doubt he would of been into metaphysics.

8:04 PM

I never told him about it till after he experienced that as I wasnt aware he was into that stuff..

8:04 PM

back then I wasnt so open about things.. and didnt tell many people things

My sister used to see shadow people, hanging around certain people like a few roommates she had

when I moved out of that house.. well I left that demon behind there. I assume Satanists must of done some ritual in that house and that is why he was there... they were not experienced Satanists and not much older than us.. so I guess didnt do their banishing well

8:06 PM

Ive only experienced shadow people a few times

Closest thing to any sort of meta has been dream-deja-vu that's been scarily accurate on a few occasions

and they can actually get inside of people. I had to get help getting one out of me. I had my energy go all yucky and asked a psychic friend what was wrong with me.. and she saw it like in me.. she got rid of it

8:09 PM

when she killed it (I didnt know she would do that and only thought she'd take it out but felt it killed when she did it, she was an astral projector and killed it with her astral sword. She went to like where it was hiding inside me and killed it).. all the squirming energy sensation inside of me went still and then I got a sensation like cloudy like energy coming out of me. It was such a relief (edited)

Its an interesting worldview to be sure. But what cant it explain? (edited)

Clara.. do you notice anything in regards to time after the incidents in which things happen. I've had a few prophetic dreams.. which came true.. they always came true 3 days later. And all were over disasters in my own country. These dreams when I've had them are different to normal dreams and left me feeling quite disturbed and I knew they were not normal ones. (edited)

8:12 PM

Ive never had one of those wrong.. but one I had which I could not trace. That was of a light aircraft crash.

They're often from months before and dreams that we really didn't have much clue would relate to real life A lot of our dreams are very close to real life, I mean

In one of those dreams.. I tried to save a little girl but no matter what I did she died in the fire, it was horrendous.. and that fire then did happen a few days later and it did kill that girl (I saw her on the news) and a few others (edited)

8:15 PM

I guess that makes me lucky then knowing when the dream will happen. In the fire dream.. I experienced one of those open ute trucks going down the road.. warning the town about the fire with a loud speaker... and their words were "fire in Wangary" (I cant remember the town now..it was a weird aboriginal name). That place was exactly where the fire did happen 3 days later, in a town which I had never heard of before my dream.

Just a bit of food for thought. So, we have many dreams each night but we do not recall all of them. So, do you think stuff can be predicted in dreams, dreams that we foeget, that then will happen in real life? orangejuice

another time I saw a flood happen. It turned out to be the Catherine Flood .. the images I saw on the news a few days later were the same ones as the dream. In the dream I was talking to someone about this flood which having like flashing images.

8:16 PM

people died in that too

8:17 PM

no not in normal dreams. I did dream study for years and I can dream up to 9 a night. I used to make myself wake up after every dream and write them down.. it is only the dreams which actually felt prophetic which ever came true and those I only very rarely get.. I've only ever had a few of them or so

8:18 PM

if you ever get one which feels different from the rest.. write it down..

Each and everyone is different from the rest lol

the prophetic ones like haunt you.. even before the thing happens. You wont be able to get them well out of your mind

8:18 PM

everyone dreams multiple times a night

Yeah i know

I hear people say.. such as my closet friend "well I dont dream" .. I cant convince him that he still does even if he dont remember lol

Dont talk to me about the mind like im a noob

I wasnt.. i was just talking about my friend

So if i had a dream, and the thing that happened in that dream turned out to be true. Is that a prophetic dream?

no not necessarily it may be coincidence.... I only thought the dreams were prophetic as I knew they were before the event even occurred. You need to rule out coincidence..

8:28 PM

if you dream you are going to get your mother show up for a visit.. you cant really put that down to prophetic if she does go and visit. You need enough facts or details out of the ordinary to know it was.

And what if i have a dream in which i feel like that event is going to happen for sure, but it doesnt, is that still a prophetic dream?

8:30 PM

means you got it wrong.. that has not happened to me.. these dreams to me do feel really different.

8:30 PM

a couple of them though I have gone "well it feels prophetic but are not sure"".. turned out they were prophetic but i just didnt trust what I felt enough

8:32 PM

im trying to find out how common they are as I'd be interested to know but cant find anything on that

That thing about prophetic dreams must be a bust then. If i can have a dream that feels prophetic, but it isnt, and if i can have dream that doesnt feel prophetic, but the events turn out to happen, it entails the following... theres no correlation between feeling a dream is prophetic and it actually happening. It is only prophetic if you feel its prophetic and it turns out to happen. But, as aformentioned, those two ideas seem to be unrelated to each other.

other times I have not dreamed something but rather just sensed something. I stopped my friend from going surfing in Indonesia as fortunately he knows and trusts me enough to not do something which I beg with him and tell him he's in danger if he did. He would of been on one of the surf beaches when the boxing day Tsumani happened if he had ignored me and probably would of died. He wanted to go surfing there and planned that when he left seeing me in Australia before he went back to England. I got him though to just back straight home and miss his indonesia trip. That was just a very very bad feel I got when I thought of him going and felt like he was in danger.. so I'd pleaded with him not to go (edited)

8:38 PM

yeah you can dream a prophetic dream and not know.. but I used that to help myself tell when it was more then coincidental

8:39 PM

well I suppose people can.. I have not seen research on this and only have chatted to a few in the past who have these dreams. The others I spoke too all did not have a set time in which the event would occur like I do..

8:40 PM

things like OBE and lucid dreaming.. seem to be far more common than prophetic dreams

How come you still think theyre related when i just proved that theres no connection? I just used a very basic method within the teachings of logic there.

Pudding, you didn't actually prove anything

I mean, if dreams are consistently prophetic/accurate, wouldn't that go...right against what you typed out, pudding

my exes mothers mother.. she had a prophetic dream of her husband dying.

8:49 PM

the impact of the dream caused her to stop him driving his normal route and had him promise her from there on to go a different way. One day though he broke his promise and he ended up having a car crash on the very road she'd dreamed he'd die on. and he did die

8:49 PM

so my ex boyfriend was quite paranoid about things like that..

I did prove that theres no correlation. Because if there was a correlation, prophetic dreams would result it the prophecy no doubt. But considering what tanya said about my hypothetical scenarios, they dont.

oh I just remembered one I had which exactly did not have come true but then maybe under the situation I could say it was kind of true. I dreamed my dad was dying.... so I phoned when I woke up to see if he was okay.. and then found out he was in hospital

8:53 PM

it turned out he had got kicked by a sheep and developed a blood clot in his leg which could of killed him. He ended up having to spend a week in hospital being watched while they tried to break up the clot. That was the only time I ever had a dream of something happening to my father. He'd collapsed unconscious due to the clot before he'd been taking to hospital, lucky he wasnt alone at the time. (in my dream I did not know what had happened to him.. only dreamed he was dying). (edited)

just because there is a margin of error doesn't mean that there is no correlation

8:54 PM

it also may be possible that a dream would feel similar to a prophetic dream, but not the same, so someone who lacked training could mistake it for a prophetic dream

8:55 PM

I'm not defending prophetic dreams, but you didn't prove anything, pudding

If you cant find out what caused the error, then theres no correlation

8:55 PM

I just did

8:55 PM

if there is a correlation then there is a correlation, it's that simple

8:56 PM

correlation, of course, does not mean causation

Welcome to not understanding logic 101. If the method is not reliable, theres no correlation. Theres just coincidence

puddings debate went over my head. I just base what I think on my experiences.

if thing A happens, there is an 75% chance that thing B will happen. if thing A doesn't happen, there is an 25% chance that thing B will happen. thing B can happen regardless of whether or not thing A happens, and thing A can happen regardless of whether or not thing B happens, but if one happens it is more likely that the other will happen/has happened

9:05 PM

that situation still has correlation, even though there is a margin of error

Im not talking about margin of error here. I am talking about the setup. According to tanya, ill just have to dream a dream in which something happens, then i also must believe strongly that those events will happen. So if i deluded myself to think that every dream would come true, no matter what kind of dream, they would come true.

that's not what tanya said at all